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| Blakeyboy1 |
Posted - 02/04/2009 : 19:29:11
Aloha -
We are wondering what kinds of lawn grasses are used in the Puna area or what other ground covers are used. It seems lava or cinder is a common ground cover. Are there grasses that adapt well that do not need to be mowed? I guess location makes a difference huh? We are looking most likely in HPP in wet areas and within 5 blocks or so of the cliffs.
Also does anyone know costs for decent sized palm trees? Are these sourced through nurseries or other places? We are also interested in information on avocado, citrus, papaya, kiwi and other edible items if anyone has any information.
Thank you so much!
-Blake
http://www.theboysgreatescape.blogspot.com/ |
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| StillHope |
Posted - 02/06/2009 : 18:12:56
Thank you,Dr.Weatherford,for the explanation.
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| james weatherford |
Posted - 02/06/2009 : 13:21:46
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Originally posted by Andrew
james: So if one were to plant several trees (say 5 or six) with the certain knowledge that they were from a mixed variety would that serve the goal of having fruit?
ANdrew
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"having fruit", yes, probably.
What kind of fruit and when during the year, would be uncertain.
Grafting wood from a tree where the fruit is known is the sure way to get what you want.
With avocados, the "when" is very important for us -- at our farm, we have several seedling (ungrafted) trees that came up years before we bought it. Each tree provides fruit for about 2 months at most. These trees started producing last September and some still have fruit on them and have not started dropping, so will have fruit at least through March.
Unfortunately, we will need to remove several of these trees to do what we wan to do. We hope to collect wood from them, note the season and type of fruit, and graft onto other seedlings.
James Weatherford, Ph.D.
15-1888 Hialoa
Hawaiian Paradise Park |
| Andrew |
Posted - 02/06/2009 : 09:07:10
james: So if one were to plant several trees (say 5 or six) with the certain knowledge that they were from a mixed variety would that serve the goal of having fruit?
ANdrew
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| james weatherford |
Posted - 02/06/2009 : 06:44:50
Like most tree fruit, avocados produce fruit by pollination; and, for avocados, this most successfully happens when there is another tree -- even a another tree of another variety of avocado (some varieties have male flowers in the morning, female in the evening; and other varieties have that reversed). Avocado pollination happens best when different varieties are available.
So, when a fruit is made, the genetics in it are a more than what you can see. When the seed comes up and grows, that genetics will be revealed in the tree and the fruit, and might just as easily be different from the first fruit as it is is for it to be the same.
James Weatherford, Ph.D.
15-1888 Hialoa
Hawaiian Paradise Park |
| StillHope |
Posted - 02/06/2009 : 04:53:19
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Originally posted by james weatherford
If the avocados are not grafted, buyer beware -- what you get may and just as likely may not be like the fruit from which the seed was planted.
Can you,please,explain why? |
| james weatherford |
Posted - 02/05/2009 : 16:27:41
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Originally posted by Andrew
I sell the palms for $5/foot. Stillhope I have several varieties of avocado but have no idea what their names are. I don't think they are grafted but again have no idea. Their sizes range from just a nut with roots to several feet in height. Again $5/foot. The fruit is very good though.
Andrew
If the avocados are not grafted, buyer beware -- what you get may and just as likely may not be like the fruit from which the seed was planted.
James Weatherford, Ph.D.
15-1888 Hialoa
Hawaiian Paradise Park |
| Blakeyboy1 |
Posted - 02/05/2009 : 15:02:51
Great information Carey. Add yeah I was referring to the HPP shorline area. I doubt we would be right on the shorline anyway.
-Blake
http://www.theboysgreatescape.blogspot.com/ |
| StillHope |
Posted - 02/05/2009 : 12:50:33
quote:
Originally posted by Andrew
I sell the palms for $5/foot. Stillhope I have several varieties of avocado but have no idea what their names are. I don't think they are grafted but again have no idea. Their sizes range from just a nut with roots to several feet in height. Again $5/foot. The fruit is very good though.
Andrew
Thank you,Andrew!
If I ask someone to plant it for me (I will not be on the island at least 6 months) will they survive?(I am talking the biggest you have).
And if they do,let me know who much you would charge for the service.
My lot is in Sea View. |
| Carey |
Posted - 02/05/2009 : 12:24:44
We have a grass that we haven't yet ID.... maybe a rouge seaspalm.... it is a creeping grass that stays low if there is any traffic (haven't mowed traffic areas of our yard covered with this species - which has a couple of other grass varieties in areas) in the 3+ years we have lived here. It will poof out over just about anything, inc. rocks & plants, & establishes a thick block with few weeds.... wish I knew the species... haven't yet taken it in for ID (other things op up with more fun/urgency factors..
Palms are fairly easy to start, & many of the rummage sales have at least a handful at opening. We have finger palms that are a clumping variety that we have shared with others...
Best resource for fruits is Plant-It Hawaii (www.plantithawaii.com) They are normally wholesale only, but have open to the public sales 2X a year & also participate in the BIAN sales in Hilo
ETA -
What Cliffs? If you are referring to the shoreline, that area is the DRY area of HPP.... There you are looking at salt tolerance, as there is not enough rain to counter the constant salt mist.
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| Blakeyboy1 |
Posted - 02/05/2009 : 10:53:07
Excellent Andrew. Thank you.
-Blake
http://www.theboysgreatescape.blogspot.com/ |
| Andrew |
Posted - 02/05/2009 : 09:32:10
I sell the palms for $5/foot. Stillhope I have several varieties of avocado but have no idea what their names are. I don't think they are grafted but again have no idea. Their sizes range from just a nut with roots to several feet in height. Again $5/foot. The fruit is very good though.
Andrew |
| Blakeyboy1 |
Posted - 02/05/2009 : 04:52:14
Wyatt that is an awesome PDF on grasses. Thank you!
Andrew - I have captured your contact information for later. I am not ready to buy yet and was mainly inquiring about ballpark pricing. Thank you!
-Blake
http://www.theboysgreatescape.blogspot.com/ |
| wyatt |
Posted - 02/05/2009 : 01:26:44
lawn info, http://turfgrass.ctahr.hawaii.edu/downloads/adaptation%20of%20grasses.pdf
Wyatt
"Yearn to understand first and to be understood second."
-- Beca Lewis Allen |
| StillHope |
Posted - 02/05/2009 : 00:04:56
Andrew,what kind of avocado ,what's the size and are they grafted? |
| Andrew |
Posted - 02/04/2009 : 20:55:32
Hi Blake:
I can supply Alexander palm trees and decent size avocado starts at reasonable rates. If interested email me at nisbet1 at yahoo.com
Alexander Palms have a classical tall tropical look and produce a red berry that the Northern Cardinals and other local birds love.
Andrew |
